Saturday, December 03, 2005

Determining a disease


What disease does your group think "Bob" has? What evidence supports this? Do you disagree with others? What evidence suggests that they are wrong/right?

28 Comments:

At December 05, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our group had trouble coming to a conclusion. The majority of us decided it was Hanta. It is when you get bit by a rodent and you have respiratory problems and exhaustion and other flu like symptoms. We knew it was not plague because the other people were tested negative with the same symptoms. So it was defiantly not that. The Epidemiology Reports had clues that lead the group to thinking it was Hanta. In the interview with the sister in law, they speak of having a cat that was used to keep the rodent population under control. But it died last spring and they did not say how it died. (We think that it must have gotten sick from killing an infected rodent.) In the investigation of the victim’s house, they noted that there was rat poison in the house with the other chemicals. They mentioned something else about the cats too. We believe that the man was bit by an infected rat and then the man got it too. The other woman who died also had evidence of rodent poisoning near the garden (and she gardened a lot!) so she must have gotten it by a rodent too.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My group made a decision that Hanta was the disease that the farmer got. He got it becuase he was most likely bit by a rat. Rats carry Hanta, and there is a lot of evidence that shows that there could have been a large concentration of rats in their barn. For instance, the cat that they had died, and with out it, then the rat population will be able to grow. Also they had a lot of rat poisin, which was used to kill the rats. And since he was working in a barn, an ideal place for rats to live in, even a better place to live with all of the hay,while working in the barn, the farmer was most likely bitten by a rat, and he probably contracted Hanta. Also his symptoms were a sudden fever, and chills, which are the symptoms of Hanta, so that is the most likely disease he could have got.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our group finally came to a conclusion that the disease that the man had was Hanta. We came to these conclusions that it was Hanta, because rodents and rats transmit it. In our group we did not have anything that mentioned Hanta, but when coming with the other groups, we compared our information and then we compared the symptoms and everything seemed to match. Everything started to come together. Which is when we came up with that the disease was Hanta.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Amy has previously stated, this lab was hard to decipher the outcome because of the various conditions that were incorporated. The group had originally chosen Plague because the plague had very similar symptoms, as flu like symptoms, which the man had. As the group narrowed down the possible answers, another disease was brought up. This disease was Hanta. The symptoms of Hanta could be more relatable to the symptoms from the man, than the plague or influenza was. In the informational packet it also described of different people getting this disease who all lived in the Southwest Region. This information helped narrow down the options of possible diseases. Hanta is spread through rats and rodents; the shows how easily the man, Bob, could have contracted the disease.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The decision my group finally arrived at was that the farmer had contracted malaria. We arrived at this conclusion because some of the symptoms such as sudden onset of fever and chills were prevalent in malaria. However, after reading the comments of my fellow classmates, I have come to agree with the conclusion so far made by the majority of the class-this being that the farmer had contracted Hanta. This would make sense because throughout the reports, there were a few statements about some of the men and women being near or having to deal with prairie dogs. At the time, I did not know what prairie dogs were-I assumed they were some type of wild dog. I have since found out that they are rodents. Since Hanta is contracted from rodent bites, I now come to the conclusions and I concur with my fellow classmates’ conclusion that the disease contracted by the farmer was indeed Hanta.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our group thought that it was Hanta that was responsible for the death of the farmer. It makes sense because the farms cat had died the year before and that would cause an overpopulation of rodents. It seemed logical to make that assumption because there was a lot of rat poisoning around the house, proposing that there was an over abundance of rodents. Hanta is from a rodent bite, the symptoms are much like the flu so that’s why no one noticed that it was anything serious. So our group has concluded that the farmer was bitten by a rat infected by Hanta.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our group’s conclusion that what had killed the guy was Hanta. Hanta comes from a rodent bite. You have exhaustion and symptoms much like the flu, so nobody thought that anything serious would come of him being sick. Everything came together to come up with this conclusion but one of the main things was that the family mentioned having a cat. They said that the cat would keep the rodent population down but it mysteriously died one day. With the cat dead, the rodent population must have gone up and the cat had probably gotten ill from killing an infected rodent. Also showing a high population of rodents was the large amount of rat poisoning found around the house along with other chemicals. Another lady who died of a similar case had rat poisoning at her house too. Therefore, the man must have gotten bit by a rodent and infected with Hanta.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The group has decided that Bob has contracted Hanta. The reason the group chose this is because rats have this virus in them and Bob was working in an area where it is highly likely that he could have bitten by one. The rat probably bit him while he was working and he got bitten but did not bother to take great care of the bite. His symptoms were chills and Bob caught a sudden fever, which are all symptoms of the Hanta virus.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The virus that I believe the farmer had is Hanta. Just as the majority of the class who responded before me has said, the symptoms, modes of transmission, and other conditions of the virus seemed to best fit the farmer’s situation. A person who is infected with this virus will most likely have the following symptoms: fever, muscle aches, and headaches. Also, another sign is ARDs. All of those match the description of the farmer’s situation along with all of the other victims in the Physician’s Notes and Database. Also, all of the victims were exposed to atmospheres or involved in activities that could have exposed them to rodent feces or made them vulnerable to rodent bites. After closely examining my information and those of other students, along with considering the other ideas, and researching the Hanta virus, I believe that the virus and the case of each victim are as close as we are possible to getting to a perfect match.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At first, my original group had thought that “Bob” had died because of Malaria. We thought this because Malaria had similar symptoms as “Bob” had, such as chills, and we did a process of elimination with the other diseases. Yet, after comparing the disease my group had with two other people (who had different jobs) with different diseases, I came to the conclusion that Bob must have had Hanta. The symptoms for Hanta were a perfect match with the symptoms “Bob” had been having. Not to mention, Hanta comes from a rodent bite, which would have been really possible for “bob” to get, since he was working on a barn. “Bob’s” cat had also recently died which would allow the rat population to increase. All evidence points to the direction that “Bob” had Hanta.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

After meeting with my first group of doctors, we thought that the virus Bob had contracted was Malaria or the Plague, because Bob was experiencing respiratory problems and chills. After we got into groups of three and discussing our points, I believed that the virus was Hanta, a virus that was never mentioned in the first part with the doctors. The symptoms of Hanta are very similar to those of Malaria or Plague. Another clue is that Bob was working outside on his barn before he experienced respiratory problems or the chills. Hanta is passed through rodents. Hanta is the only disease that fills in with all of the clues.

 
At December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My group originally thought that the guy died because he was infected with Malaria. We thought this because Malaria had similar symptoms that the guy had, such as chills for example. We examined each disease and one by one eliminated all but one disease that would most likely be the culprit and came up with Malaria. But when I consulted with my new group we came to the conclusion that the guy, or Bob, probably died when he succumb to Hanta. The symptoms that Bob had were very similar to Hanta. Also, like Tina said (like a thousand times), that Hanta spreads through rodents and since he was working in a place were rodents may live, he had a good chance of contracting it. Rodents like to live in dark moist areas like in rotting wood or a broken down shed and he was replacing what could be rotten wood in the roof or floor boards.

 
At December 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My group determined that the most likely candidate for the unknown illness would be Hanta. The symptoms each victim had were flu-like symptoms such as fever, respiratory problems which are symptoms for Hanta as well. Hanta is found in rats and a cat had died in one of the victim's shed where she was working so she could have gotten bitten which would have infected her with this disease. All of the other victims were also in wooded areas where they could have gotten bitten as well.

 
At December 11, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the anonymous comment was Mike Kearns

 
At December 11, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wasn't here on Friday when we went over the diseases, but when I joined a group and discussed it with my group we decided that it was Hanta. Hanta is a disease you get when you get bit by a rodent most likely a rat. The farmer had flu like symptoms to go along with respitory problems. Their was evidence that the rat population in the farm increased because of the death of the cat and all the rat poison. The diseae the farmer most likely got was Hanta.

 

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